{"id":5540,"date":"2026-05-05T12:14:45","date_gmt":"2026-05-05T10:14:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xesc.mardones.ovh\/?p=5540"},"modified":"2026-05-05T13:31:51","modified_gmt":"2026-05-05T11:31:51","slug":"entrevista-a-pedro-fresco-lluito-per-la-transicio-energetica-com-a-lluita-de-transformacio-estructural","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xesc.mardones.ovh\/?p=5540","title":{"rendered":"Entrevista a Pedro Fresco: \u00abLluito per la transici\u00f3 energ\u00e8tica com a eina de transformaci\u00f3 estructural\u00bb."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pedro Fresco, llicenciat en qu\u00edmica, e<span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">x-director general de <\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Transici\u00f3 Ecol\u00f2gica<\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\"> a la Generalitat Valenciana i a<\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">utor de diversos <\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">llibres <\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">sobre transici\u00f3 energ\u00e8tic e<\/span>ns convida a reflexionar sobre com combatre el pessimisme clim\u00e0tic amb educaci\u00f3, relat positiu i estrat\u00e8gies realistes per impulsar la transici\u00f3 energ\u00e8tica i social.\u00a0El voleu con\u00e8ixer?<\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><strong><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Acabes de publicar \u00ab<\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">El arte de impulsar el cambio\u00bb<\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">. Quina idea clau destacaries?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">El llibre pret\u00e9n ser una crida contra el pessimisme clim\u00e0tic i eixa sensaci\u00f3 de que res es pot fer, que els problemes s\u00f3n massa grans o que al final no servir\u00e0 de res. No \u00e9s cert; aix\u00f2 \u00e9s un pensament indu\u00eft que l\u2019\u00fanic que provoca \u00e9s la par\u00e0lisi. Es poden fer moltes coses i, de fet, ja les estem fent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><strong><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Ecor\u00e0bia, ecoansietat\u2026 t&#8217;afecta? T&#8217;ajuda a mobilitzar-te o et bloquegen?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Els sentiments negatius generalment funcionen mal a l\u2019hora de mobilitzar a favor de causes transformadores. En el millor dels casos mobilitzen per a la protesta, per\u00f2 no per a la creaci\u00f3 d\u2019alternatives. La por funciona molt b\u00e9 per generar reacci\u00f3, per\u00f2 no per<\/span> <span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">impulsar transformaci\u00f3. Per aix\u00f2 els reaccionaris l\u2019utilitzen com a eina principal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><strong><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Quin \u00e9s avui el principal repte de l&#8217;educaci\u00f3 per la transici\u00f3 energ\u00e8tica?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Diferenciar el que es vertader del que \u00e9s fals. El m\u00f3n de la transici\u00f3 energ\u00e8tica est\u00e0 ple de <\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">boles<\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\"> i de <\/span><em><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">fake news<\/span><\/em><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">, que s\u00f3n usats pels interessos dels que no volen que res canvi\u00ef. Sovint venen de sectors antag\u00f2nics, el que genera molta m\u00e9s dificultat a l\u2019hora de diferenciar-los i facilita que ens pugui el biaix.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><strong><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Creus que hem de ser presents a xarxes com X o TikTok, tot i les seves din\u00e0miques, per contrarestar discursos consumistes i desinformadors?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">No tinc clar el que vaig a dir, per\u00f2 vaig a explicar el que faig: vaig eixir d\u2019X a finals de 2024 (Tik Tok no he tingut mai). No volia estar en una xarxa on impera la desinformaci\u00f3 i l\u2019odi. Aquestes plataformes estan manipulades per un algoritme, per tant, pretendre contrarestar discursos all\u00e0 \u00e9s una batalla perduda. El que hem de treballar \u00e9s explicar als usuaris que el que veuen all\u00e0 \u00e9s fals.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><strong><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Penses que hi ha alguna estrat\u00e8gia per implicar persones que inicialment no estan interessades en temes ambientals?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">B\u00e0sicament no hem d\u2019anar d\u2019ascetes ni de predicadors. No l\u2019interessa els temes ambientals? Molt b\u00e9, i la sobirania energ\u00e8tica?<\/span> <span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">I no ser depenent de Donald Trump o de Putin? Si trobem que a la gent s\u00ed els interessen aquests temes, comencem per all\u00e0. No vulguem ser m\u00e9s purs que la puresa. Ning\u00fa vol destruir el medi ambient perqu\u00e8 s\u00ed; mostrem-los que existeix una manera de viure b\u00e9, i segurament millor que ara, sense malbaratar res.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><strong><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Si fossis Ministre de Medi Ambient, en qu\u00e8 invertiries els primers 100 milions d&#8217;euros?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"cvGsUA direction-ltr align-justify para-style-body\"><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">Malauradament, en la transici\u00f3 energ\u00e8tica, que \u00e9s un proc\u00e9s de transformaci\u00f3 estructural, amb 100 M no tenim ni per a comen\u00e7ar. El nostre pa\u00eds necessita m\u00e9s emmagatzematge, energia e\u00f2lica i electrificaci\u00f3 del transport i la ind\u00fastria. Potser haur\u00edem de gastar eixos diners en un programa de TV en <\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\">prime time<\/span><span class=\"a_GcMg font-feature-liga-off font-feature-clig-off font-feature-calt-off text-decoration-none text-strikethrough-none\"> que sigui divulgatiu i formatiu per explicar la transici\u00f3. El m\u00e9s important \u00e9s conv\u00e8ncer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Darreres entrevistes publicades:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/xesc.mardones.ovh\/jorge-riechmann-lluita-per-no-perdre-la-nostra-humanitat-en-el-maelstrom-de-la-digitalitzacio-i-la-ia\/\">Entrevista a Jorge Riechmann<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/xesc.mardones.ovh\/heike-freire-lluita-per-no-li-agrada-lluitar-cada-dia-intenta-connectar-amb-tot-allo-viu-dins-i-fora-seu\/\">Entrevista a Heike Freire<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/xesc.mardones.ovh\/entrevistes\/\">Totes les entrevistes<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pedro Fresco, llicenciat en qu\u00edmica, ex-director general de Transici\u00f3 Ecol\u00f2gica  [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":26,"featured_media":5542,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[45,24],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5540","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-entrevistes","category-noticies"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.2 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Pedro Fresco, llicenciat en qu\u00edmica, ex-director general de Transici\u00f3 Ecol\u00f2gica a la Generalitat Valenciana i autor de diversos llibres sobre transici\u00f3 energ\u00e8tic ens convida a reflexionar sobre com combatre el pessimisme clim\u00e0tic amb educaci\u00f3, relat positiu i estrat\u00e8gies realistes per impulsar la transici\u00f3 energ\u00e8tica i social. 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